"I don't believe you're a reliable narrator, and I'm not convinced this isn't just some kind of PR campaign to stop yourself from getting indicted", McCain began. He said, 'I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go.
McCabe, who looked extremely uncomfortable, answered, "Absolutely not, not at any time, ever". So I transacted on issues regarding the media every single day, ' he said.
"Then why did [former FBI Director] James Comey deny the claim that he approved your leaks to the press?" she demanded. McCabe has said he believes he was sacked because he opened the investigation into Trump. It's understandable-he was under an enormous amount of stress at the time.
While McCabe probably enjoyed his 15 minutes of revenge, more importantly, the former deputy director needed to get out in front of any potential criminal charges that might be forthcoming under recently-confirmed Attorney General William Barr. As McCabe explained, they were concerned that Trump may have won the presidential election with the help of the Russian government.
What about the "Today" show?. "So rather than get into an argument with the president of the United States, we, I said, 'Okay, sir.' And we hung up and ended the call".
"The objective of the briefing was to let our congressional leadership know exactly what we'd been doing", McCabe told Guthrie. No senior Republican congressional figure raised any concerns over the legality of the investigation.
"No one objected", McCabe recalled. "No one objected. Not on legal grounds, not on constitutional grounds and not based on the facts". "I was a part of that team and a part of those decisions". I reviewed it with our lawyers.
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While substantively who called whom may prove irrelevant, McCabe told Pelley that "I made memorandums to myself to make sure that I preserved my contemporaneous recollections of those interactions", so any problems with the accuracy of those memos will call into question the accuracy of all McCabe's memos.
He said he believes the report by the FBI's Office of Inspector General used as the basis of his dismissal was biased against him.
He was sacked by the Federal Bureau of Investigation for lying on numerous occasions and has been referred by Congress for prosecution for perjury and other crimes and likely will face charges in the near future.
"I was speaking to the man who had just run for the presidency and won the election for the presidency and who might have done so with the aid of the government of Russian Federation, our most formidable adversary on the world stage", McCabe said. "Is that what you're suggesting?"
The briefing, McCabe said, was with the Gang of Eight - a bipartisan group of lawmakers comprising the Democratic and Republican leaders of the House and Senate, as well as the leaders from both parties of the House and Senate intelligence committees.
McCabe himself was sacked past year after the Justice Department's inspector general concluded that he had misled officials about his role in a news media disclosure.
McCabe deferred to his aforementioned pending civil lawsuit against the DOJ.